I was told they wanted to convict Lawrence Slaughter and not my sister.. . ST. JOHNSBURY A three-year nightmare for the loved ones of Melissa Jenkins is one step closer to ending. But I suppose you havent a clue about that. On Instagram, I found a post for a two-part Win at All Costs podcast featuring journalism professor Bill Mousheys interviews with Patricia Rorrer from prison in December 2019. Catherine Im in complete agreement with you! Those who knew Joann pointed out that she didnt like to drive in reverse and would have never parked that way. More than 20 years after her conviction, Patricia Rorrer still has advocates working to exonerate her. Its an opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. RR, Watch the Forensic Files episode on YouTube. That's counting the nine bullets you put in Sarah. Dial-a-problem. Not everything is a conspiracy. Hate Crimes Prevention Act and 45 counts of using a firearm Still, no good leads materialized. Does it actually have to be an obligatory duty for anyone to be present at a trial before they are able to have an opinion? She should have been treated exactly the way she treated that mother and baby, taken out into the woods, shot, beaten and then left to die. She took out the woman who replaced her. This information was never revealed to Rorrers defence. "You deserve to die now, not in prison. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. The real killer is Rorrer! Patricia No explanation given. At that time he was living in Connecticut. Patricia Rorrer was a cold woman. If her husband was going to do that Im sure he wouldve done it in a totally different way! A federal jury found Yassein Abdulfatah Said, 59, guilty on one count of conspiracy to conceal a person from arrest, one count of concealing a person from arrest and one count of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding. And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded. I would like to tell you that there is many errors in this article, that I would love to send to you the proof of each one. Weak wages. They retested the hair for DNA evidence with updated technology definitely Patricias hair case closed. Are you even aware theres a strong suspicion that evidence of the hair, which was DNA matched to her, was tampered with? Nope. Patricia They did this case on Reasonable Doubt last night. She also will never get to see them get married. j} [gut('bIKL|kY4`a;]MQ p2x $kw. Amina Said's mother Patricia Owens Said was not charged with murder. Then 31 years old, she had lived a rocky existence. You, however, consider your ill-informed opinion superior to them not only that, you then go to great lengths to belittle them. Another point is the theory developed by the cops that the victim (Joann) was shot just one time and then bludgeoned to death. Jenkins was reported missing after her vehicle was found idling with her 2-year-old son inside. Andrew mentioned to police that his former live-in girlfriend Patricia Rorrer once managed a horse stable two miles from the bodies location and would have been familiar with the riding trails close to the murder scene. Required fields are marked *. And your appraisal of McIntyre is 100% spot on. There is no justice for your loved ones when the wrong person is paying for the crime. But because there is no author of this page, I would like you to contact me on the Free Patricia Rorrer facebook page. However, Said never called 911. According to Kohlhepp, the RTPD obtained Patricia Koptas DNA sample, then obtained one from her sister and a nephew. And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. However, my curiosity is piqued as to why Andrews mother didnt report the missing daughter in law, Joanne and her own grandson Alex! All rights reserved. Rorrers defenders remind me of a case in my home town There was a killer who confessed, was caught on video committing the murder and was seen committing the crime by an eye witness. And Andrews explanation of how the intruder got in through the basement door seemed contrived, according to Grube, who gave an interview to Wrong Man, a 2020 true-crime docuseries from the Starz network, which produced two episodes called The Hang Up about the Rorrer case. Cops under pressure will lie to close a case. Stable situation. They tested the hair last night on Reasonable Doubt using updated technology it is definitely Patricias. My biggest issue is the day the phone call came in, and the fact that the prosecutor deliberately misrepresented the facts. Have a tip or story idea? Especially mice! And, why is it reasonable to believe lay people accept the jury verdict? And its been bad. There was a push for a mistrial, but a 16-year prison sentence was negotiated instead. Even if there were some minor flaws or discrepancies in the investigation, thats normal. Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty Thursday to misdemeanor harassment and was fined $2,000. After reading this forum and hearing the details of this case, Iowa sure seems a lot fairer in my eyes. Ive heard she gets to go out to LUNCH and this broad is in prison for murdering her husband Russ Stager? Larry Wrights sentence was reduced to only two years in prison with five years of parole. SHE IS NOT GUILTY OF THESE CRIMES. A newspaper account described Patricia as a soft-spoken, demure woman who had a sweet Southern accent and wore feminine clothes in court. Proven in court and sentence awarded!!! How so? Prosecutors say a 911 call from the night of the murders proves that Said is guilty. Marsicovetere cited studies done by several doctors during pretrial proceedings, saying that they determined Patricia Prue suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder and might suffer from dissociative identity disorder as well. At the states request, the instructor wore a wire during a phone conversation with Patricia. DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. Am I missing something? Watching Reasonable Doubt right now hope they also find that she did it. Despite the fact it has never been proved thats exactly how it happened, it seems to be accepted as fact it could just as possibly have been the other way round, beaten and then shot. Browns downtown Los Angeles office demanding that he grant Patricia Wright clemency. "If she could do that as a woman, my God.". Patricia Marissa Suarez, in the matching brown hat and scarf, and Patricia Todisco, in the darker hat, are seen inside the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 (images via FBI court filing). Joann would have fought for her life the person that did this would have had marks on them from a fight! To prove it 110% rather than just 99% I dont know why they wouldnt retest the hair fibers etc. His defenders claimed that the confession was coerced, the video was grainy/unclear or doctored and the witness was confused and/or unreliable. I happen to be one of those deluded people youre so freely attempting to insult. Wouldnt that verify Troutmans claim that the husband was arguing with the victim, in a rage? 2023 FOX Television Stations, Rockwall-Heath coach resigns after school workout investigation, Things to do this weekend in Dallas-Fort Worth: March 3-5, Dallas 14, 15-year-olds charged with murder, Prosper man who shot neighbor's pit bull will not face charges, Watch: New video from Hubble space telescope captures asteroid-smashing debris from successful DART mission, New street drug 'tranq dope,' rots skin, turns humans into 'zombies', 3 children killed, 2 hurt in Italy, Texas, Biden has cancerous skin lesion removed from chest, doctor says, Severe weather video and photos from around North Texas, Suspected North Texas scented candle thieves allegedly stole $27,774 worth of items. He had an attractive new wife and beautiful baby boy. How about the two eyewitnesses that identified her alive days after her disappearance. She has always denied this allegation and says that both she and Lawrence Slaughter are innocent. Mr. Said harbored his father, Yaser, inside an apartment in Bedford, Texas, where a maintenance worker spotted Yaser on Aug. 14, 2017. Its totally irrelevant. Trash-talking ex. Now retired, he declined ForensicFilesNow.coms invitation to spar directly with Patricia via a podcast. [emailprotected]. Aside from the hair, there was almost zero forensic evidence. Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. Yaser Said was found guilty of killing his two daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said, in 2008. You should be ashamed of yourself. "There is nothing I or anyone can say to make what you've been put through any easier," Patricia Prue said. We've received your submission. Sad discovery. Said While Patricia does not qualify for medical parole, she can still file for executive clemency or compassionate release, which she has already done and which was met with more resistance from Gov. Prosecutors said the Prues planned the March 2012 crime: Patricia Prue's computer had been used to conduct online searches for "how to kidnap a girl," the Prues acquired a stun gun, and they bought a prepaid cellphone to call Jenkins to ask for help. Yaser Said was arrested Aug. 26 after authorities searched the Justin home. "It's been an honor and privilege to stand up and be an advocate for Sarah. This was a horrible and brutal double murder and whoever did it needs to be locked up forever. However, while sticking solely to the Rorrer case, the issue of the husbands alibi is very much open to doubt if one takes into consideration what the documentary, STARZ-The Wrong Man (in two parts) has revealed. !) and detractors (This is another bs attempt to free a psycho). She held up pictures of her dead daughters. This is the most ridiculous take ever! The Innocence Project has declined to take her case. And for you to even ask why documentaries are biased, makes me wonder if you have the ability to determine fact from fiction! Patricia Kopta eventually developed dementia, police said. Youre clutching at straws Im afraid. Said WOW JUST WOW PEOPLE ARE SO BLIND BY ALL THIS. Joanne and Alex didnt disappear until 12/15. . No way they laid there for 4 months!!!! Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports is also available on YouTube, but it costs $1.99 to view (Keith comes off as an advocate for Patricias innocence on the episode). Patricia I come home one night, and shes just gone, and nobody knows where shes at, Bob Kopta, husband of Patricia Kopta, said at a press conference reported by Pittsburgh-based NBC affiliate WPXI. Nope. As for the idiots who didnt think Ms. Rorrer guilty of anything more sordid than having zero taste, the simple fact(s) are that: 1) what they claim about such testing (as was done to the hair) wasexcuse me, IS wrong both due to the follow-up AFTER the mDNA test results were made only proved more concretely that Ms. Rorrer WAS the person the hair came from, 2) the inanity about thinking Andy had something to do with it (the simple fact that ALL investigations START by checking the closest, most immediate relative, i.e, a spouse), was after his being thoroughly vouched, to NOT be in ANY way involved, 3) since this case, forensic science has only improved by huge leaps, and that no one including the courts or the Innocence Project will get involved should make it VERY clear, this case is CLOSED. THESE COPS ARE WRONG AND THEY ALL SHOULD BE IN JAIL FOR WHAT THEY DID TO PATRICA, PUTTING HER AWAY FOR LIFE FOR SOMETHING SHE DID NOT DO. He said she did own a firearm, with its serial numbers filed off. Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. Not sure why anyone is defending her. Just consider all your nasty posts about others opinions and learn to attack the argument, not the arguer with insults. Women like Barbara Stager who killed her husband in Durham NC. Andrew also stated that when Pat called and Joann answered she had instructed her not to call again because they were married and they were happy. DNA also doesnt lie. Other loyal friends and associates attested to Patricias kindness toward horses and devotion to her daughter, whom she took along as she worked in stables. Allen and Patricia Prue were arrested two days after Jenkins' death. You people are fighting a losing cause! 8/9/2022 Yaser Said was convicted of capital murder Tuesday in the 2008 fatal shootings of his two teenage daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said. Interesting points thanks for writing in (and, yikes, those poor deer that starve to death). "The one thing I am guilty of is bringing the person who committed this crime to Vermont, and for that, I'm truly sorry" Allen Prue said in an apparent reference to his wife during his December sentencing. Patricia and her husband broke up after the babys death. But her reputation wasnt exactly sleek and shiny. Wright desires to live her last days with her five children and six grandchildren, was in the statement as well. Let her rot like she left Joan and that INNOCENT baby Alex. I decided to just plead guilty to get it over with.. On closer inspection, he saw it was the body of a woman. Oklahoma Incest Case: Mom Married Kids - Peoplemag So we can just pretend that everyone is honest all of the time? Conflicting versions. Why? Patricia Kopta left behind a husband and siblings and meandered through northern Puerto Rico for a while before she was taken as a person in need to the adult Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. It is not necessary to the case against her that she owned the killing gun (and it would be foolish to have used it). No way for 4 months, that deceased baby would still be resting across the mothers chest. Not normal folks obsessed ones do. pTq r |G.H=IO-I7`,|&m2tj1Lo;{~}squ_~zpMq7 Judges may have the discretion to reduce a felony in a wobbler case to a misdemeanor. Patricia Instead, he hid for 12 years until the FBI found him in a relatives home in Denton County. When they were getting ready to drive away, a police car pulled up behind them and checked their car. Andrew told investigators that the unpleasant phone call between Joann and Patricia happened just three days before his wifes disappearance. The fact that there is LITERALLY NO EVIDENCE that Patricia was actually obsessed with Andy; they spoke as friends maybe twice a year. You say by definition! Guilty Youre so fixated with her guilt, youre unable to see other factors that show this case to be a disgraceful travesty. I made the confession on tape that I had rehearsed with the LAPD, said Larry Wright. Throughout the process, she heard many community members waiting for the proceedings to be over. Because of these two prior offences, Patricia was sentenced to life in prison without possibility of parole under Californias Three Strikes Law. A Dallas jury unanimously found Yaser Said guilty of killing his two teen daughters on Tuesday. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The woman who was showing the home alleged that Patricia was involved in the theft. They were people that knew her, not Andrew. Patricia Giddings pleads not guilty She just stayed in touch with everybody, Kathy Barber said in her interview on NBCs Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports in 2017. Patricia Wrights brother, Larry Wright, 47, and her neighbor, Janet Marcelin, 55, both testified that Patricia Wright and Lawrence Slaughter committed the murder but recanted their testimony after Patricia was sentenced to life without possibility of parole. She is the one who tricked them, first by "Most of the community feels bad for the child To see that in the United States bugs me. "Yaser Said, you're a devil. Thats all for this post. Until next time, cheers. The first rule of a murder is motive. Mark and Patricia McCloskey, the St. Louis couple that infamously pointed guns at demonstrators who were marching past their house last summer, have pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charges in the incident. The women testified last week. Caledonia County Deputy State's Attorney Kirk Williams read a letter from the Jenkins family to the court during the hearing. I cant lose them, he told the media. Which Patricia did not, so who is the real killer? Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. From what Ive seen its pretty obvious Patricia did do that to this poor woman and the baby. Both sides agree Joann hung up on Patricia. I can only suggest you read through my comments again, only more thoroughly. Ive scanned through of all my remarks on this site and nowhere have a seen a single remark that confirms your assertion that Ive been insulting. Said Guilty Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Have you read the book? Ironically its you who is basing your view on second-hand information, as you were not in court. After an hour Id call anyone whod listen to me including police! A man normally wouldnt care about killing a child, but a woman normally would have some kind of abhorrence to harming an innocent child. At one point Interpol had an extremely similar case in which an individual convinced a friend, who had been his sexual partner several times in the past, to kill the woman he had a baby with, on the grounds that the child is not his and he does not love her but cannot leave because everyone would accuse him of abandoning his child and his family name would be affected. The men harbored Yaser Said inside an apartment in Bedford, according to court documents, and he was nearly captured after a maintenance worker spotted him in August 2017. But I agree with a recent comment.. Why not do a paternity case so just that is done and out of the way. no blood, no finger-prints and no soil evidence it was as if the car had been wiped clean stated the attending investigating police officer!That itself has to be considered highly suspicious and cast doubt on the hair evidence which WAS found. Patricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. Narcissistic and violent tendencies are very common. Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was fined $2,000, while Mark admitted to misdemeanor fourth-degree Patricia Kopta appears in two photos, spaced some 31 years apart, after being discovered alive in Puerto Rico after being declared dead. Patricia complied fully with the original investigation of the crime and wasnt a suspect because none of the blood or fingerprints found at the crime scene matched hers. This response of yours neatly sums up your dogmatic view of her guilt despite so much evidence to the contrary. But otherwise, extremely similar, a single bullet fired into the head, the woman later beaten to make sure she died, the hair, which had remained in the bracelet of our victim in this case, the way it was executed outside the house in a wooded area, at the command of the gentleman who did not want to soil his house, and the child who in our case was abandoned in the car. Discuss and express opinion; stop short of asserting that those of the other view (that of judge and jury, at least) are ignorant of facts and wrong, and youre right, because by definition its reasonable for lay people to accept the jury verdict. Or to keep it anonymous, click here. Addressing Patricia Prue, Judge Robert Bent said the sentence of life without parole was "fitting" since she was a full participant in the crime. Patricia And Mark McCloskey Who Waved Guns At BLM Protesters In your future life in prison I trust that not a day goes by in which you won't revisit your crime.". Patricia Kopta, Pittsburgh street preacher missing since 1992, found alive in Puerto Rico A woman who was missing for more than 30 years has been found alive and at Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. So whats your point (other than many people are stupid and you arent)? Patty Hearst (Ross Township Police Department). When she was there, she refused to discuss her private life or where she came from.. Oh wait, sorry, you werent there. Hoist by my own petard! Are you even aware there are judges, eminent writers, lawyers and TV personalities and countless other ordinary people all of whom steadfastly support her as being innocent and wrongly convicted. Youre right about my comments on other sites, but those seem to have an abundance of hate-mongers who feel no need to mince their words hence my retorts to those. Missouri's Governor Pardons The St. Louis Lawyers Who Waved What a contrived case! If in the woods in a rural area, no animal, rodent or insect touched those bodies? Charles Robert, the 3-month-old son she had with Gary Gabard, died of sudden infant death syndrome; Patricia found him blue in his crib. Why would she say that maybe she wasnt really a good friend, just someone trying to inject herself into a super sensational case.
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