My first thought and instincts on the object you believe to be circular on the left is a cow skull and the fact its there is very strange indeed. Here is what bothers me about this event. This case really creeps me out, specially the findings and the pictures. In fact, Im almost certain of it. While posing with sticking out your tongue means for a Dutch native you found something disgusting, especially while simultaneously closing your eyes. . So, when locals look at you sideways as they glance, glare, or even stare at your shorts and sandals, do not be offended or surprised. Again, these are just observations. Blue is an uncommon color in the rainforest for anything of that size. There is no question thats what it is. Definitely foul play, in my opinion. Many hikers from all over the world disappear, fall, or suffer other fatal accidents while traveling - this could've happened to these women as well. & is that some sort of an entrance to a cave or another makeshift structure shes crouching to take a look inside- or is a part of the trail in that spot purposefully made lower & narrower in order to pass through? Are you familiar with the Koude Kaas blogs about this case? In the first half of this year, tourist arrivals fell globally by more than 65 percent, with a near halt since Aprilcompared with 8 percent during the global financial crisis and 17 percent amid the SARS epidemic of 2003, according to ongoing IMF research on tourism in a post-pandemic world. Her hands are *not* tied behind her back. Apparently it would also have been easy to alter the time stamps on the photos. To the right of the body is a cross fashioned out of two poles, as is customary in Panama. Bright sunlight is coming in from the left side of the photo, so Kris holds her flattened right hand up to her face to shield her eyes, similar to a salute. I have a working theory of the predator (not a specific name). I think in the original photo she is putting on her backpack, stretching her arm and back, and the backpack has been airbrushed out because of course she didnt take that with her. The ambulatory friend began to assess how she might reach her friend, but underestimated the difficulty involved, thereby becoming less able to extricate herself from the jungle. Ive already researched a lot about the local conditions: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/07/02/kris-kremers-lisanne-froon-panama-bleached-bones/. The FBI and others have continuously tried to stonewall him from publicly making these cases and their bizarre circumstances publicly known. There are over 30 fingerprints on the blue backpack which belongs to one of the girls, but they dont want to investigate the fingerprints. no, Jaguars fear humans and do not hunt them as tigers do in India. Basically akin to that in the movie the predator. Ive been to Brasil and the Amazon and spent nights there in the rain with a crowd though. The tragic deaths of Kris and Lisanne remain a disturbing mystery. The camera and photos were tampered with with photos removed and other photos cropped and reduced in size. It would be scarey.they could got attack by animal. You can find more information about on this article: https://imperfectplan.com/2021/02/24/kremers-froon-new-case-data-timestamps-of-missing-daytime-photos/. Or another type of colorful animal found in the jungle? she does see something disgusting. I am thinking while I am writing so please be patient with me. The theory of being lost is so plausible in a Jungle but then the photos .. the speculation can never end. Its possible theres a painted insignia on the post to right of Kris. While the case has since been declared closed by both the Panamanian and Dutch authorities (who worked on . First calls at 16:39 then nothing again for 14 hours? Haha, Im assuming this is a joke, right? It is possible for incompetence to work in conjunction with interests to protect key industries. Dog owners here are not mindful of where their dog goes the owners are tending to their own life: working, raising children, running a business, or resting during the hot days. From January to October, 86 Navajo men and women have gone missing nationwide, said Meskee Yanabah Yatsayte, a missing-persons advocate for . Agreed the thing on the tree trunk looks man made but even if it is it is not sinister. Subsequent analysis revealed that on April 4, Froons phone battery became exhausted, but between April 5 and April 11, Kremers iPhone was turned on multiple times but whoever turned it on didnt enter the PIN code correctly. Nobody knows what happened to Kris and Lisanne and everything is open to speculation until more information is found. However, according to the Daily Beast: We now know that more than two dozen other victims also were reported in the same region of Panama, including a young woman from the United States found murdered earlier this year. From 2017 . Could fishing line be being used to secure all this making it hard to see, & could that blue object on the ground be part of the roof device- step on it & it triggers it or something like that? This means either the user became incapacitated and was not operating the phone or was seriously confused. After investigating further, I discovered this article from the LA Times: https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-01-18/cult-anointed-by-god-kills-7-in-panama-jungle, The LA Times article states The sect arose after a villager returned to the community several months ago following a stint abroad, bringing back unusual religious beliefs with him.. Experts proposed several theories about how and why the women took thesephotos. WHY? You see the pattern to the left and right of her arm. Im not saying that I dont think foul play was involved. Here are some ideas Ive speculated about. Of course there is room for healthy and rational speculation surrounding what happened but the vast majority of these theories are absolutely ridiculous and downright disrespectful. Cheers, Reg. By April 6, 2014, theparents of both women grew frantic andflew to Panama with detectives from the Netherlands. Fact. Sorry to bring up the dog again. The students' phone records also tragically revealed how they desperately tried to call the police. I wonder if the two red objects are flowers? People began to suspect something happened whenthe dog Blue returned from the hike unaccompanied. Blue, a dog known throughout the community, reportedly followed them along the trail. Was the dog fed and watered by a family as opposed to being one of the many feral dogs in Latin America? What is clear is that on that fateful day the girls went out for a short hike and never came back. Anyway thanks again this is such a fascinating case I wish there would be some kind of closure for the families (although I saw a you tube video that interviewed the father of one of the girls, he said that they hired their own investigator and determined they died of an accidental fall. Everyone is already aware that there are many unfortunate possibilities of what could have happened to Kris and Lisanne. Maybe shes told to put her hands up and walk into this structure. However, I cannot say for certain because I do not know why the owner would fabricate this part of the story. Its interesting numerous people have contacted me anonymously and informed me that there are already multiple existing research teams that are investigating this case privately. A Panamanian search and rescue team helped recover the bodies after more than 690 hours of searching, authorities said. Thats why Kris stops in photos once in a while as if to say this way, right?. Theres so much conflicting information regardless of which theory is chosen. But during my time spending a year there in 2015 (at the time Id not heard of this case), I had asked around about legends within the jungle and there is in fact legends from tribes who never interacted and are thousands of miles apart which regress of some THING that comes from the sky or trees that is not visible to humans but devours then to the bone. Thanks for the analysis though, I keep looking for new stuff, this case really gets to meI can see why people think this was a criminal act -I see that with some aspects of the case, however, I do think that it was the result of injury and or getting lost -I cant see a criminal 1) letting them keep their phones and camera and 2) letting the camera and phones being discovered. Being disoriented, and losing a companion, hunger, asthma. Kremers'slocked phone showed someone entered awrong PINseveral times. Keep in mind, these are my observations Ive made since moving from the USA. Perhaps the owner had an underlying influence/incentive to express conviction in his or her statement about the dog. On April 1, the 21-year-old and 22-year-old went for a walk . EERIE photos discovered on a camera belonging to two missing hikers revealed their mysterious final moments before both girls vanished in the jungle in Panama. Stop trying to read too much into it. Debra Ann Velleman, 70, of Waukesha, Wisconsin, and Sue Borries, 57, of Teutopolis, Illinois, both retired public school teachers, were part of a community of snowbirds and expats living in the area of Chame, Panama. On April 3, 2014, authorities began an aerial search of the forests and an on-foot search ofBoquete. Why IMG_0509 is missing, which could be a crucial piece of evidence, is an enigma. Nobody is safe. People usually have dogs for a mild form of protection. They usually drown their victims, hit and run car accidents, or just disappear the victim, etc anything that ensures theres no obvious intent to the police. For pareidiologists, in the Cave photo on the right just over halfway from Kris head to the edge of the photo there is an arm and hand tied to a tree, and to the right of Kris leg is the sole of a walking boot with a light stripe down the middle. Many hikers from all over the world disappear, fall,or suffer other fatalaccidents while traveling-this could've happened to these women as well. Photo link: Theyre also exceptionally rugged and dangerous, especially during the April-to-October wet season. I have watched so much about this case and this is the first time I have heard that the parents withheld photos. They got lost and succumbed to the wild. Its perfectly normal and had they not tragically passed, its the type of photo theyd have been joking about later. For me the strongest clue that not anything sinister happened is that the family refused to have ALL photos released because some show the girls in a very rough state. It may be a plant, but it appears to have a definitive shape and its oddly located that the very center of the path with no other visible red things in the trees. The sun is shining right into her eyes so shes squinting and bending down a bit to see her friend, who was probably talking to her while snapping the photo. Packed up the bag, left it, and tried to walk out. Also and I am assuming the phones where in their possession the phones actually did acquire a signal some times but clearly they were not being used so they did not know. She looks as if her hands are above her head in a way someone would have them if a police officer were to tell them to put their hands above their head. The mans face is clearly visible standing behind the rock with the red bags. The grimace on Kris face is because she is in pain. Hi Susan, those are all possibilities. I think this photo in particular is odd. She must therefore be in a house or building of some kind and therefore being kept prisoner at least for the 8 days before that photo was taken. The structure at the back of this small ravine looks like a hideout that a military man might make, as part of survival training in the jungle. And the police are not helping at all it seems to me that they want to destroy the investigation. I also think those girls probably already perished before the dates on those daytime photos. She cant be shielding her eyes from the sun, as no shadow is falling over her eyes. With regards to the photos, they are probably real. No chance. Looking forward to reading what Bethzaida Pitti comes out with in the book she is co-authoring about the case. I am trying not to speculate but where is the firm incontrovertible starting point? These photos all look very photoshopped. You said it seems to me that they want to destroy the investigation I agree with you that it seems intentional to some degree. I agree with you that what happened is not some misadventure. Are they low-level or sophisticated or a combo or both? Let me dampen the third party argument by asking IF their end was at the hands of another personwhy not simply bury the rucksack rather than all the elaborate need for photoshopping and phones used in the hands of a third party ? I also see something above the brown circle, like a ring of colored balls or ???? Perhaps the truth will come out someday. Jane, Recently I have been reading that it is not unusual for people that hike or run in dangerous places and go missing that a shoe with a foot is found. Lisanne or Kriss hair and head 4. the dried short (Kriss) 5. both fell but their belongings were intact, no cracks in the phone? Thanks for your interest in the case and providing some input. I prefer to think that the two girls had some sort of accident, still horrific but better than being murdered. The girls went for a swim in a rock pool. Disturbing evidence also showed there were a number of failed attempts to unlock Kris' phone - sparking another theory that Kris had died and Lisanne was frantically trying to access her phone to get help. A table of photo data from their hike on El Pianista Trail: New Case Data: Timestamps Of Missing Daytime Photos. I dont really speculate much with psychic readings or energy. Thanks for your consideration with this comment. Thank you for your consideration. I think she is pointing, but at something else in another location. She has no idea that her parents are about to arrive in Panama. thank you for sharing this. There may be some evidence on its fur like fingerprintsdnaplant/vegetation etc. Possibly ambushed and didnt have time? Most novices wouldnt know how to properly handle something like this, so it was probably someone experienced with computers. Maybe one girl regained consciousness at night and took the pictures. https://i.postimg.cc/3xK4Pdmb/Kris-Kremers-Full-Photo-Highest-Res-auto-x1-1-photos-v2-faces-x2-colored-toned.jpg. Thanks for the observation. Happy reading! The timeline could have been enhanced with this info. I have read several of the books. Im curious to know if they had a camera why wouldnt they make a final message for family telling us and them what happened? Eventually theyll have to confront these issues or nobody will visit and expats/immigrants/investors will leave. But I still had that curiosity. They took the dog with them on the walk and it came back the next morning but they didnt there had to have been some clues maybe like how far could the dog have gone and still find its way back home? 2. The bones of Lisannes foot were fractured in an unusual way (from the top down). That could just be confirmation bias on my part. Even rainwater gets heavy enough to destroy electronics inside of a backpack yet that didnt happen. I was looking at the photographs again and something caught my eye. I think the left arm is visible behind her hanging down. As the search was starting to wind up, a local woman handed in a blue backpack, claiming she found it in a rice paddy along the banks of the river. I know that their camera and mobile phone photos have been analyzed a thousand times by various people online but I also know that many people arent able to enhance the brightness, contrast, exposure and saturation in a professional graphics program. We would like to show you a description here but the site won't allow us. ALSO, I really want to know where and when Kris quit wearing her backpack! The deaths of more than 4,680 people have been documented during migration in Asia since 2014, often linked to the exodus of the Rohingya from Myanmar. What is that clear brown glass-looking circle in the upper righthand corner? Do you or anyone else that you know of have any idea where in Panama this photo was taken? Im sorry but the question deserves a dumb answer. Please read. Also we are in the realms of Hollywood if we need such a calm and calculating mind at work other than those of the girls to abduct and or kill them and then orchestrate a smokescreen. Im just pointing out some peculiar things worth noting. He ledo toda la compilacin y visto la mayora de videos. Its part of the relaxed culture. Its a sect of foreign Christians that set up in the area and murdered 6 people FROM one of the local tribes. Ive seen cases in which political frenemies were erased out of photos without a trace. This figure has increased rapidly since the millionth tourist . In 2014 Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, both from the Netherlands were traveling and exploring the Central American country of Panama. They earn money through drug trafficking, often theft and sometimes by extorting businesses. Regarding the photos, I have no idea why they would be taking these, deleted some later and left this one, especially since the ribbed roofing structure is somewhat obvious. Perhaps someone has just hit Kris on the right side of her head and she is putting her hand up to where it hurts. If you dont know the story, I recommend you visit the link at the bottom of this page. Like so many other people I really, really wish we could find the answers to this mystery. I believe that by the time this photo was taken, the situation has gone sideways. It looks as if there is a guy standing off the edge in the tunnel. From 508 onward. I see nothing extraordinary in this photo, without stretching imagination. The point is that all of this case was poorly handled by the authorities. If you think America is safe you are ignorant! What do you think? They should be alive and flourishing today. Also, people do not give off a rosy glow from their backs, as can be seen here. What we do know is for 5 days after they disappeared, her phone was checked about a dozen times. Id love to know if these pics exsist. Has anyone gone back to the spot where the photo was taken? Also, I live in El Salvador, less than 1,000 kilometers from Panama, which has many cultural similarities. The last set of pics is especially chilling to me, my first thought was Lisanne may have been bound & hurt & somehow able to gain access to the camera & made a last attempt to signal for help or document everything around her as best she could & thats why all the angles are so awkward & unfocused. She is obviously excited by the weird place they have found. Shes just exploring. It even appears they have some kind tattoo on their back. I see the nose and mouth and possibly and eye, like they were trying to hide from the girls or camera and peaking behind branches creepy. Im not sure though, Id have to search in my graphic editor again. I did not cover all of the accidents and trials and tribulations along the way leading to their death.Jim. For Composer Drew Silva, Music is all About Embracing Life. Could it be the same man in both photos. The Panamanian government had requested that the U.S. deploy assets including Navy salvage divers and sonar to aid in the search effort and locate the wreckage in the days after the crash, but the request was denied due to a lack of assets and jurisdiction, according to a statement from the Velleman and Borries families. It actually came as a surprise to us too, but our conclusion had to be that it was an accident. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. Your email address will not be published. It has to be her arm and hand that are blocking that part of her shirt. Visit Panama City Beach officials tell us in 2021, our tourism numbers were up 50% over pre-pandemic numbers. A well-worn path. I dont know if youve noticed this or not. Especially the beams and details, and the cave behind her. If you look at her shirt, it appears to be red and white striped. I dont think so. This is significant because image 508 was the last photograph of them where they werent in any trouble. And she can only hope that Kris will wake up. They would have shared all the info with the private investigators whom they have hired. Unfortunately, this camera setting is not public knowledge, but the default mode is Continuous.. Wearing minimal clothing, no knife of compass which were left in their room. I did not cover all of the accidents and trials and tribulations along the way leading to their death. What kind of twisted f*ck stick makes this kind of comment? Take care. A search eventually turned up a severed foot and scattered remains, but authorities had trouble determininghow the hikershad died. We do not know what other clothing or items they possibly took. Kris walks down the ravine and bends over to examine orange graffiti Hi Oliver, I do believe that theres enough evidence to conclude that some of the photos were graphically edited (photoshopped) but I dont think this photo was manipulated. Heres what I think happened. I realize that its more interesting to make things more ominous than they are but this is a very sad case of two naive girls who were totally unprepared for their adventure and very sadly got lost, injured and succumbed to nature. The camera could have malfunctioned but this seem highly unlikely. I think your initial analysis of the photo is spot on. Hi Chris, to me the place Kris is in looks really spooky, but I also think it looks like the entrance to a cave. But others have suggested the chilling photos might have been taken by someone else after killing the girls. Perhaps every murder in the first world is resolved. Like a trap net or something. Just trying to get as many ideas together as possible, so that some clue may surface one day. A witness who wont be staying in Panama for long. The finding of the backpack 14 miles away is too incredulous to be believed. This is likely part of the trail on the way down from summit, that maybe turns sharply. Guns are mostly for use in robberies, but these gangs prefer not to leave bullet holes its too obvious. If you follow down from the two red objects, there appears to be something that looks almost like blocks or siding shingles. Kris Kremers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22, went for a walk through the scenic forests around the Baru volcano in Boquete - and never returned. When someone does finally find her, its the last people she would want to be found by. Also, no organ stealing, no cartels, no people traffickers, nothing to do with tribes, cults, sects, etc. It belongs to the long green leaves we are seeing up there. I have spent a lifetime walking in the forest near my home and I dont see the odd things that people see. It looks straight and like it may go over the eye and above it. Is this in dispute? Might look harmless and untouched which is why she is standing so close but then she is either caught or trapped in a booby trap lol. The Lost Girls of Panama: The Full Story. The 2020 cristian massacre was committed by a couple of men who were definitively altered in their state and heard voices etc.
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